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Ki
October 4th, 2005, 03:18 pm
NOT MINE but thought I'd share it with ya XD not sure if anyone likes brithing pics but Being 'Two and all
thought it might spark interest.
http://pregfur.org/art/album18/mewbirth.sized.jpg

The_Evil_Mewthree
October 4th, 2005, 05:34 pm
I can with full confidence say that it sparked something, all right...

The Arbiter
October 4th, 2005, 05:46 pm
Hmm... interesting

mewrei
October 4th, 2005, 05:53 pm
Aww cute.

Jaxtwo
October 4th, 2005, 05:57 pm
I... reallly don't know how to respond to this one...

mewrei
October 4th, 2005, 06:00 pm
Who doesn't want a kitten sized Mewtwo? I sure as hell do.

RehcaerpM22
October 4th, 2005, 07:01 pm
*Starts saving up money* X3

mewrei
October 4th, 2005, 07:27 pm
Yeah man no kidding.

**Is becoming a geneticist.........you might call him a mad scientist for what he wants to accomplish**

Hehehehe.

RehcaerpM22
October 4th, 2005, 07:28 pm
*Gives Rei another smoke* :3

mewrei
October 4th, 2005, 07:30 pm
Ehehehehe. Actually the one thing thats going to suppliment that desire the most is the Army. AND HOLY SHIT, I just went to the home site of that image....pregfur.org PLEASE don't go there. I'm disturbed beyond all recognition.

Jaxtwo
October 4th, 2005, 07:35 pm
Gotcha. Thanks for the warning.

mewrei
October 4th, 2005, 08:16 pm
Still made my bookmarks list though XD.

emsiecat
October 5th, 2005, 12:30 pm
The idea of a lil kitten Mewtwo is cute, but not quite sure about the actual picture ^^;

mewrei
October 5th, 2005, 08:37 pm
DAMNIT!!! Why did I have to look at the URL in the first place? Its like piping hot cookies. You want to get one but it burns everytime you try.

Razorirr
October 5th, 2005, 10:27 pm
im not that much into the birthing pics but this one is pretty good. though i get that its a kitten sized mewtwo but my brain goes "IT IS A MEW, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD MEW!!!"

Leon M.
October 6th, 2005, 03:00 am
This is cute... <sigh> to bad its not ture though, cause PKMN give birth to eggs and don't live birth there young...

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undefined
October 6th, 2005, 06:32 am
I need to draw a kitten sized mewtwo now...

emsiecat
October 6th, 2005, 02:23 pm
Kitten Mewtwo's are soooo cute!

mewrei
October 6th, 2005, 07:04 pm
Originally posted by Leon M.
This is cute... <sigh> to bad its not ture though, cause PKMN give birth to eggs and don't live birth there young...

...

Well technically Mewtwo is an "it" and has no gender. Thats if you believe Nintendo. However, during "Pokemon:The First Movie" in Mewtwo's creation I saw the identifier strand for the Y Chromosome which basically is the male sex gene. Accident or not thats what it was so I guess he's a guy.

undefined
October 6th, 2005, 08:23 pm
Let's give Mewrei here a freaking medal...

No seriously. That would have been not pointed out if it weren't for you, but I would have assumed it's masculinity by it's voice.

mewrei
October 6th, 2005, 08:41 pm
I'm an expert on Genetics but I don't have a degree WAAA! Fuck high school let me at college genetics, I can take it.

RehcaerpM22
October 6th, 2005, 08:51 pm
*Gets his pompom's and anime skirt* Go mewrei, you can do it! Just dont go to the pics URL!

mewrei
October 6th, 2005, 08:54 pm
So very disturbing. It would make David Draimon keel over(Disturbed's lead singer).

Speaking of which, I feel sorry for disturbed. They didn't renew their domain in time, someone else got it, and now they want $10,000 for it. I'd just sue their ass for it.

RehcaerpM22
October 6th, 2005, 08:56 pm
Sueing usually leads to bad puplicity since media likes to bash bands that are a bit difrence. Maybe a reason why they dont. *shrugs*

mewrei
October 6th, 2005, 08:59 pm
Frankly I don't think Disturbed gives a shit about looking bad.

RehcaerpM22
October 6th, 2005, 09:13 pm
Well apperenly something held them back.

mewrei
October 6th, 2005, 09:32 pm
They might be in the process right now.

Razorirr
October 6th, 2005, 09:45 pm
i dont think that they should be able to sue for that. it would be like suing the bank for reposessing your house cause you didnt bother to pay the payments on it.

mewrei
October 6th, 2005, 10:01 pm
They took the name. They could sue for copyright infringement. Trust me on that one.

Razorirr
October 6th, 2005, 10:22 pm
that leads me to one big question. this is more like a generality.

if group a were to be located in america and something like this where to happen with group be being in a county where the copyright is not accepted what happens?

mewrei
October 6th, 2005, 10:24 pm
SOL.

Razorirr
October 6th, 2005, 10:35 pm
sol for the plaintiff or the defendant?

mewrei
October 6th, 2005, 10:37 pm
sol=Shit out of luck.

Ki
October 6th, 2005, 10:40 pm
Honestly I prefer the idea of pokemon giving birth to their young, the whole egg shit thing doesn't appeal to me. Eggs are for the avian and reptilian pokemon not the more mammal like ones. I think they did the whole egg thing just because the didn't want to have to deal with the whole birth thing and little kids. Still if they did do the live birth idea, that would probably give another topic for the people who are against pokemon to rant about.

Also this picture sparks a fun idea in my mind. Ok, I know the whole thing with Mewtwo-sama and his creation from dna from a mew and possibility of humans. Recalling those lovely pictuers of Mewtwo and Mew humping the cum out of each other, It could lead to the possibility of this. With the logic of this picture one could say this: Female Mews give birth to male and female Mewtwos, and Female Mewtwos give birth to male and female Mews. Kind of a trade off. That saying the whole birth thing were existant and that Mewtwo-sama could truly be his own species. Sure he is a clone but why then doesn't he look just like Mew? Genetic altering possibly? Mewtwo-sama and Mew in physical body are slightly similar in form but Mewtwo-sama Of course has much more defined, elegant, sexual features. Any how if possible, this could all condone the existance and coexistance of the 'Two and Mew species within the Mewtwo-sama fan base. The result of those would be of course 'Twos like every one here. (assuming every one is a 'Two)

On another note asside from the 'Two fan base that would destroy Mewtwo-sama and Mew's exclusiveness in the pokemon world. Then again who's to say there aren't more Mews? Surely there would be if one existed at the time. ie in the case of Celebi, sure there was one known at the time untill hordes of them popped out of the sky from alternate universes or from where ever they came from. So thus said begins the dawn of a concievalble theoretical existance of the many 'Twos and Mews you see within our fan base.

RehcaerpM22
October 6th, 2005, 10:43 pm
Cool post. ^^
Beam me up, spock.

mewrei
October 6th, 2005, 10:47 pm
Couple of things Ki. Mewtwo's DNA is a dominant type recessor. Meaning that Mewtwo can fuck Misty, Mew, or any other female and a Mewtwo kitten is still poping out 9 months later.

Secondly, the Japanese version of Pokemon:the first movie makes a better impression that there are thousands of Mew's but people are just to stupid to find them.

RehcaerpM22
October 6th, 2005, 10:49 pm
Which would explain the spy like behaivor of the Mew in the movie.

Razorirr
October 6th, 2005, 10:51 pm
i know what sol is i meant whos sol, the plantiff or the defendant. put that law firm brain to work.

mewrei
October 6th, 2005, 10:52 pm
The copyright holder would be SOL. There wouldn't be a plaintiff or defendant.

Ki
October 6th, 2005, 11:02 pm
Originally posted by mewrei
Couple of things Ki. Mewtwo's DNA is a dominant type recessor. Meaning that Mewtwo can fuck Misty, Mew, or any other female and a Mewtwo kitten is still poping out 9 months later.

Secondly, the Japanese version of Pokemon:the first movie makes a better impression that there are thousands of Mew's but people are just to stupid to find them.


I see, I see, well this in interesting I didn't know that at all. Well then that proves a wonderful fact! I would like to observe this fact for myself, is there a scene in the movies I should over view or a screen shot to show this proof? Heh most educational! Also though who says it's nine months? Feline gestation is around 100 days or so correct? So that said there'd be alot more beautiful little Mewtwos running around eh?

I see your point. Yes saddly the American version to me is complete bullshit. Completely fucking and adulterating the pureness of the original Japanese. Of course there is probably thousands even millions of every pokemon. It's just as you said people are two stupid to find them. Fuck I hate our American dubbing companies.

Razorirr
October 6th, 2005, 11:11 pm
could that be the situation with the band then. or is it a known fact that the onw with the site i in a country that honours the copyright?

mewrei
October 6th, 2005, 11:19 pm
Don't know. Might be some little dipshit in Saudi Arabia trying to make some bux.

Razorirr
October 6th, 2005, 11:30 pm
hey if i was that dipshit id do it just for the fact that i was cheating the system.

Jaxtwo
October 7th, 2005, 12:51 am
Hmmm... An intelligent fan discussion...

Please, continue. :D

Razorirr
October 7th, 2005, 06:08 am
yeah cept the person that i was discussing it left. :(

Leon M.
October 7th, 2005, 04:45 pm
Originally posted by mewrei


Well technically Mewtwo is an "it" and has no gender. Thats if you believe Nintendo. However, during "Pokemon:The First Movie" in Mewtwo's creation I saw the identifier strand for the Y Chromosome which basically is the male sex gene. Accident or not thats what it was so I guess he's a guy.



It seems that you have never read my post on the old site, that You didn't... there is reason to belive that Mewtwo is a male.

Leon M.
October 7th, 2005, 04:47 pm
I'm reposting this just for those who haven't seen it before on the old site.... I think it may help sort out some confustion, that I hope.

Mew:
Let take a look at what mew is (source of Mewtwo's existence): rare, yes.... mystical, yes.... but can we really say that its rarity makes it so that it do not have the need to reproduce a good reason at this is the fact that Mew has every others pokemon DNA: now this is an interesting, that it is. Cause the mean that it is part of every Pokemon, and that is it may have been the beginning of all Pokemon, even more interesting is the fact the Mew species might be able to make new kinds of Pokemon at will...


Transformation:
Interesting is that the fact that Ditto is not the only Pokemon that can do this trick, Mew also knows this ability, Ditto I believe was a Mew at one point that use it's transform ability so many times that it's body has forgotten it's original form and with the fact that Ditto can breed with other Pokemon just by changing it's Form to match the requirement of the Pokemon that it wishes to mate... but the one thing that you must keep mind that Mew has a form already... and with the fact that it hold every type of DNA then it may even be able to chose what type of DNA it wishes to use while mating w/o the need of changing it form, with this mews may even be able to change there gender at will. (Most of this is theories there are still more wholes in the Information that I have written.)

The Creation of Mewtwo:
Now as you all know Mewtwo was made from the fossilized reminisce of Mew, now lets just say that if what I said about is true then lets just state that the Mew that has become deceased and become the fossil that the scientists found was a male, based on the theory I wrote above, then the clone that they where trying to make, please make note that they where trying to make and enhanced version of mew. Now... this is where I feel a little lost... but while using the DNA they where not just trying to make Mewtwo, but as seen in the "Birth of Mewtwo", it seems that the Scientist used the fact that Mew's DNA matches with all other Pokemon's DNA and used that to create Bulbasaur2, Charmander2, and Squirtle2. (Amber[Ai]... I have no idea if weather or not that Mew's DNA was used in her creation, My theory is that it was not use cause that Dr.Fuji was so intended on getting his daughter back that may of not want to disrupted her DNA fearing that if he did there might be a chance that she would of be come a Pokemon and not the little girl that he long to be in his arms once again)

Sadly for some reason the 3 out of 4 died during this phase of creation, is the reason that Mewtwo survived was because of the fact that Mewtwo's DNA based more closely to the Mew that had die. (I really wish I could see what the other clones they had made before the the last 4 in which that the 3 had died in, cause will not be able to confirm what I have just stated) another thought is that, I believe that Mewtwo was not the Pokemon that they really cared if it lived or died, as from what you could see from the other clones beside a few color disfigurements the bodies where really all whole, almost no different then what a normal Bulbasaur, Charmander, and Squirlte would look like, but Mewtwo looked anything but like a Mew.... My guess is a mess up in it's DNA has to be the cause of this disfigurement not to mention the it's second neck in most case is a byproduct, but in the end only Mewtwo survived... If what I have said is true the changes in the DNA may be the reason why Mewtwo loses the ability to be able to use all the TM like Mew can and is only able to use the ones that best suits his Abilities for fighting.(This last phase I could not think of proper words to use) Not only that Mewtwo had also lost the ability to shape change and (again if what I stated above is right about Mew) the Ability to gender change, now think about this, if the Mew that DNA that was use to make Mewtwo was idea a male at the time of death and cloning process is the reason that most of Mewtwo's orginial abilities of a Mew were lost, that mean (again stating that Mew was a Male) that Mewtwo could not gender change and that his gender is locked as a male.



Now I'm not sure of this but I believe that in "Mewtwo Returns" aka "Mewtwo Lives Part 1 & 2" Giovanni make a comment to Mewtwo as he does what Giovanni tell it to do, which is to enter the force field that is being created by the two Machines that are used to suppress his powers down to nothing, the Comment that Giovanni make is "Thats a good boy. Now I'm not sure if it is a Translation mixes up or that in the Japanese version of the same scene may of said something different, But when you think about who else besides the scientist that made know what his gender is then Giovanni, for sure he would of received all the test record based on what Mewtwo is and what he can do.

Inclusion, I believe that more then anything that Mewtwo is not genderless, because even in though in the game it says that he is genderless is only because they don't want you to be able to breed and army of this Pokemon, it is just to keep odds fare. Never the less the new Pokemon that involves Mew as the main Pokemon of the Movie that is coming up (for those of who saw the trailer of it), it will hopefully open up a few mysteries about that may even fill in the holes or even change of what I know of Mew as of now.

Back on topic though, if what I have stated is right then maybe somewhere not of this reality, someone weather it is a male or female is in the loving arms of a Mewtwo, and are going to have the best time in there life... a thought wish would come true for me... but sadly after all we do not live in a Pokemon world... but more then ever we have dreams and hope, who know maybe... one of us here at ToM will get that chance... who know... but keep hoping... no matter what...

mewrei
October 7th, 2005, 06:11 pm
I read it. However, its mainly based on theory instead of cold hard facts. My explanation offer irrefutable proof that he is male. That ends the discussion right there. Your's is interesting but I'm just supporting your belief

Leon M.
October 7th, 2005, 11:33 pm
Then you didn't read it well enough, be side all my infomation that is posted above is base manly on things that I have seen from the game (many though all the POKeDEX information) and the movies, remember Nintendo made Pokemon... What they say about Mewtwo goes... also I will note that I did put the word theory in one of my paragraphs, which is a bit misleading.

The only theories are as Listed:
The fact that Mew makenew kinds of Pokemon.

This Informantion about Amber's(Ai's) DNA having or not having Mews DNA in it.

The Informantion about Other Clones that where made.

And to tell you the turth, the Mewtwo in the Anime may be a lot did rent then the one from the game for this reason... never once did I read in all of the PokeDex information that said Mewtwo was a male. (Only using "IT" instead of "HE")

There you go...

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mewrei
October 7th, 2005, 11:37 pm
Well, the anime had the Y-Chromosome Identifier strand. Standing out plain as day. That says he's male to me.

Ctrl Alt Del 123
October 8th, 2005, 02:41 pm
Originally posted by mewrei
Well, the anime had the Y-Chromosome Identifier strand. Standing out plain as day. That says he's male to me.
Get a screenshot of this. I want to see it.

mewrei
October 8th, 2005, 03:11 pm
how's a timestamp work?

Razorirr
October 9th, 2005, 12:33 pm
i always thought he was male in the first place.

and a time stamp is a type of file that has a window of opportunity that you can open or download it in. i may be incorrect on this one though

emsiecat
October 9th, 2005, 12:56 pm
The fact it shows a Y chromosome and what his voice is like in the anime says to me 'male'. That's my two cents anyways.

Leon M.
October 9th, 2005, 03:42 pm
... Well enough said... at least this whole mess is sorted out.