Tech overlode: requist for info

[Mewfive]

Hi this is Alex, or as you may know me, M5. I have noticed that some I have come to meet have been really upset about my mech technology and calling me a godmodder, I would like to know what I am doing wrong here. First of I am seriusly considering to permanatly quit using my technology and mechs as ppl like Godgolde always bombard my feelings with "this is like this" and "mechs are close range infantry support" but I know what I know and I would appriciate if anyone in this temple could tell me what I am doing wrong, I know my mechs are a bto powerful but I try and work on it, please anyone, someone tell me what to do. I beg you, all of you, help.

[Jaxtwo]

It's just that this is a Mewtwo RP community, not a Mech RP community. Mechs are fun, but only in the right context. You'd rarely think of Mechs when you think of Mewtwo.

That was, at least for me, the big draw of Mewtwo/Pok?mon: The mystical, chaotic, supernatural characteristics, and with Mechs and futuristic technology, there are restrictions and parameters that are set by science. Sure, in real life, 4-meter thick armor plating will stop anything, but when you RP, and bring it into that supernatural setting, it just loses it's novelty.

I'm not saying stop using technology in an RP, just keep in mind that it's the Temple of Mewtwo, not the Temple of Mechs.

[mewrei]

In context of RP'ing, you're doing nothing wrong. It's a to each his own typa thing. Don't worry about GG, he and others always denounce my abilities as an admin so I ignore them unless they present a legitimate claim

[The_Evil_Mewthree]

Actually, it's not the mechs themselves that raises the problem. I use mechs and robots myself in RP; the difference is, other characters ARE ACTUALLY CAPABLE of defeating my guys. The problem with what goes on is as follows:

Scanman prepares his optical sensors--OH THAT DOESN'T WORK, the mech has scan proof and psychic proof blockers

Shadowball is fired at the mech--OH THAT DOESN'T WORK, it's barrier is far superior to anything else in the universe

Holothree virus uploading beam is sent against-- OH THAT DOESN'T WORK, it has super-fly over our inferior heads AI protection, the beam doesn't even connect


I say that a fictional element Rigidium is the rarest element in the galaxy BUT WOULDN'T YA KNOW, ol' Alex has a stash of it on his ship which is from another universe and is as old as time itself...

Okay, that last one doesn't have to do with the mech, but you get the picture.

BOTTOM LINE: M5, just because that's how your mech really may work, you have to make it seem as if you actually CAN be beaten, let somebody's attack actually get through every now and then.

I'm not saying this to be mean to you, because I like having you around. I'm just saying make you and your stuff appear to have vulnerability.... and make sure the other RP'ers notice said vulnerability; and can actually do something about it.

[Orgun]

Right ok heres the thing M5, me and GG use machines for the 40k universe, now this Universe is in a constant state of war, so yes the Titans and battle tanks are tough very tough infact but they are not invulnerable, when you bring on your uber mech of death which is what? 6 7 meters tall you make it seem to be unstoppable, so let me ask you this, what chance do we twos stand agianst it, if supposedly it can take down a machine that is 100-150 meters tall, has multiple shields and armour thats 5-6 meters thick?
Everytime I have seen you rp, not a single psychic attack has worked, gravity doesn't affect it nor does anything else. Yes you say your vulnerable to electricity but what happens if there arn't any chars here who can use those kinda abilities?
Also in my opinion me and GG have ago at you over your mechs is because you seem to completely ignore the technology of other universes, everytime time we give you an example you come up with something more powerfull. It slowly irritates us to the point of where we lose our temper over it. You say your not uber perhaps thats true when your against other mechs of similar design but what are we mere organics to do against it?

[mew2cool]

yeah, these kinda things got me bored of RP'ing. it's a Mewtwo place, not a mech place. and also Haku's constantly changing character starts to piss me off along with Ai's characters' ?ber-long swords (wtf) those things just go TOO far in being unrealistic, even for a RP. =I i try to keep my characters out of the the "too unrealistic"-category so they fit the RP world.

[Ctrl Alt Del 123]

I like this thread, as I'm glad that others share some of my opinion.

1. I don't like Mechs. In fact, I hate them. And this is coming from a nerd/geek who loves computers and going for a college degree in Computer Engineering. My problems with Mechs are: they lack common sense in design, they don't fit into the Mewtwo universe at all, and most people completely overuse or abuse them.

2. I like character interaction, not machine interaction. Why does the driver of the Mech have to be inside the Mech? Wouldn't it be smarter to have all Mechs remotely controlled elsewhere? Then you don't go down with your Mech. But, what fun is that? Anime is not what to look at for future machines. Realistic Mechs are going to be remote controlled and not human in shape.

3. Swords. I don't know what the obsession with swords is. If you're psychic, why are you using a sword? It makes no logical sense. From what I have seen from Ai is in a similar boat as Mewfive. Untouchable and unrealistic.

However, if I find someone that is godmodding, or untouchable, I just stop interacting with them. People who have ultra powerful characters are just not fun to RP with. I stop RPing if someone can't be beaten, it's not worth my time to continue. If I stop RPing, and anyone else perticipating stops, the RP stops. What can the god modder do then? Nothing. Not even an ultra powerful character can resurrect a stale RP. It gives them a taste of their own medicine in a way.

[Kiera Namir]

In continuance of Mewthree's response, another problem you have is automatically doing damage. Sure that may work IRL or in a story you're doing all by yourself, but in RP's you have to give your opponent a chance to react.

But I will congratulate you on one thing; you're not controlling, like some other people I know.... (don't worry, it's not anyone here) People trying to control an RP's plot to be the way they want it is one of my 2 biggest RP pet peeves (the other being godmoding). Tis why I don't RP with my friend Vickie anymore =/

[mewrei]

The future is best predicted in Phillip Dick movies like Minority Report and Paycheck. That's one of the ideas behind the two.

Mechs? I'm no further a fan than Gundam Wing and Mech Warrior/Assault. I think your major issue of complaint is godmodding.

Would everyone be happy if I derived a stats system?

[hakaryu]

To limiting and no one would ever really use it but in this case it might work

[mew2cool]

what kind of stats system are we talking about?

[ShadowedFigure]

D&D stat system would be awsome. Assign a level for everyone like 40 or 50 so we can do the good stuff. Or wait! I have a stat system I was working on not too long ago that I think would work better here. I'll PM the basics to you if you like.

[Razorirr]

i hate stat systems. they work great but i take forever to learn them for some reason. dont know why but if i must then i must.

[Orgun]

This thread has got me thinking, do you all consider my chars ability to heal most wounds to be to far fetched? Would you all like me to drop it?
I think the stats could work quite well we'd just have to try it sometime.

[mew2cool]

well as long as it doesn't happen in an instant i don't have a problem with it. My characters have that kinda abilities too, but it takes time, not just *bling!* healed.

[Orgun]

Its more along the lines of a few mintues its not uber instant, like erm....majin buu ^^

[mew2cool]

lol @ majin buu XP ok, a few minutes is fine if it doesn't happen automatically but requires attention. (as in your character uses a power to heal himself)

[Orgun]

He has to focus and it makes him weaker the more he heals

[mew2cool]

ok, that's fine by me then.

[Orgun]

Good good, makes me feel better now that people don't see him as uber powerful.

[mew2cool]

yah, ?ber-powerful characters are boring to RP with.

[Ctrl Alt Del 123]

Originally posted by mew2cool
yah, ?ber-powerful characters are boring to RP with.
Hence the last paragraph of my first reply.

[mew2cool]

got that right.

[The_Evil_Mewthree]

I'd be uber powerful if it wasn't for the fact that I'm a clich? ambiguous villain who keeps losing... :D . . . wait, why am I proud of that?

[Ctrl Alt Del 123]

Originally posted by The_Evil_Mewthree
I'd be uber powerful if it wasn't for the fact that I'm a clich? ambiguous villain who keeps losing... :D . . . wait, why am I proud of that?
Because you're good at it.

[mewrei]

My stats system, a dumbed down version of the engine for NL. It's dumbed down because I doubt even William Dembsky would have been able to do use it effectively.

I really like the D20 system but it requires alot of probabilities. Everyone would need 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 16, and 20 sided die to be able to play. Instead, my stats system is all pre-calculated. It'll definitely be complicated but lucky for you I'll have a primer.

[hakaryu]

D20 i can handle since i play D&D alot

[ShadowedFigure]

I like the D20 system but I only half-know it cus the online documentaitions are not very clear on how to use it. So I fill in the blanks with Warhammer 40k style rules.

[hakaryu]

Shadowrun has a similar system but it has guidelines on futuristic stuff

[ShadowedFigure]

Speaking of futuristic, do you know how battleing large vehicles like starships would work?

[hakaryu]

Antiair mechs or large cannons

[Mewfive]

Thanks for sharing your opinions but the main reason for swords and other hi-tech gear is becouse my char was never built for head on attacks and therefore has no offensive capabilities besdies his streanght and high-freq swords, plus I used that rocket mech so scanman would not scan me, I come from a time that has not yet come to pass, do you really think I want a machine to copy me?, plus I guess I should kill of some way to strong machines but the one I used was made from human tech and I do have bigger mechs, my biggest one is my ship but I never use that one. I ask for forgiveness here and I promise never to do this again but I would appriciate that if I would happen to do it again if you could point it out for me to correct, there is one thing though, the thing that gives me life cant be copied, I just dont want my char to get all his powers copied by a robot, even though I like them and other tech greatly and have mostly robots and mechs games and all. OK I've talked way to much..... :] ...time for me to let you decide

[mew2cool]

well i decide no mechs or lasers or energy weapons of any kind.

[mewrei]

It's patent infringement for me to use D20 without another one of Wizard's products. Therefore we must use something else not requiring us others to get D&D stuff(like I should talk)

[ShadowedFigure]

Like what? Dice or dice rolling is unavoidable if you want any randomness =/

[Orgun]

My chars stat 40k stlye
WS 6
BS 2
S 6
T 7
W 4
A 5
I 6
LD 9

For those of you who don't know what the letters are heres a quicky:
WS - Weapon Skill
BS -Ballsitic Skill
S - Strength
T - Toughness
W - Wounds
A - Attacks
I - Initiative
Ld - Leadership

Perhaps this 40k style stats could work? Any thoughts on it?

[mew2cool]

durrr....no. XP

got good laughs though, thanks. =)

[Orgun]

Oh fine then, ?? just suggesting but course the idea is shot down by mass cool flak.

[hakaryu]

That bastard shoots down any idea not his own

[mew2cool]

1) i'm not a bastard
2) i don't think the 40k stat system would work here, the I, LD and A stats...i just can't think of any use to them. But if you have a good idea to make it work, go ahead. impress me.

[Orgun]

I was just pointing it out as a base course the I, A, Ld wouldn't work as they'd have no use, and to be honest I can't be arsed to impress you. k ^^

[mew2cool]

so you just pulled out a useless stat system without thinking it any further eh? that's nice. that's very nice.

[Orgun]

It was a friggin base template to maybe provide someone with some ideas, it also happens that I was and still am at work, so I had to do it quickly.
So what right do you have to judge me on it? None what so ever so please if you don't feel like giving your thoughts without making it sound polite please don't.

[mew2cool]

yeah, but the point was to come up with a working system that would fit the temple, and the 40k thing obviously isn't suitable for it. you shoulda noticed that yourself, you're not dumb.

but anyway, next suggestion?

[The_Evil_Mewthree]

We don't need a stat system. What we need is for some people to get it through their heads that they need vulnerability that is capable of being exploited; or at least tapped into.

[mew2cool]

well yeah.

[Jaxtwo]

I'd rather RP with my imagination, not with a set of rigid rules and stats to hold me back, just imagining what is impossible, and having fun with it.

[Ctrl Alt Del 123]

Unfortunetly, people will disagree on what is possible or impossible, and stats are a way to determine fairly what is and is not.

[Razorirr]

i have almost no need for a stat system anyways. i hardly ever fight or anything. just tons of walking around and talking to people.

[Orgun]

So then this topic no longer has any point to it, no one can decide on what to do so then just leave it as it is. This topic has maybe enlightened some people, and if anyone decides to become all powerful or overwhelming then Im sure someone here will put them in their place.

[mew2cool]

well everyone can read everyones' char profiles and if there's something someone is uncomfortable with, we will have a chat with the owner of the character about it. problem solved.